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In this, the second part of our conversation with Ira Wolfe (Geeks, Geezers, and Googlization), we explore ways to navigate today’s change challenges. In the course of the conversation, we uncover some of the risks of black and white thinking (work from home vs. return to the workplace); challenge assumptions that many leaders are bringing to their decision-making; and discuss some of the factors that should be explored to inform decisions about whether to move to a hybrid (workplace and work from home) solution.